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Gemini 4 Carbon vs Ember-1

6 prompts both ran·Specs and numbers·Change models

Gemini 4 Carbon took 18 min 40 s and $1.05 at list price, Ember-1 took 25 min 56 s and $1.78 at list price. Ember-1 took 1.4× as long and cost 1.7× as much.

Gemini 4 Carbon

Google · $10.00/M out · 308 HN pts

Ember-1

Fireworks · $15.00/M out · 589 HN pts

Pelican

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

Gemini 4 Carbon's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

3 min 2 s$0.1212k tokensAPI
Ember-1's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Ember-1

3 min 14 s$0.2214k tokensAPI

Watch

Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.

Still of Gemini 4 Carbon's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

5 min 21 s$0.2222k tokensAPI
Still of Ember-1's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Ember-1

5 min 11 s$0.3624k tokensAPI

Landing

Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.

Still of Gemini 4 Carbon's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

3 min 59 s$0.2727k tokensAPI
Still of Ember-1's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Ember-1

7 min 29 s$0.5134k tokensAPI

Breakout

Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.

Still of Gemini 4 Carbon's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

2 min 25 s$0.1919k tokensAPI
Still of Ember-1's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Ember-1

6 min 30 s$0.4731k tokensAPI

Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.

Gemini 4 Carbon's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

3 min 20 s$0.2323k tokensAPI
Ember-1's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Ember-1

3 min 18 s$0.2214k tokensAPI

About

Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.

Tucked away in a bright workshop near the Rotterdam docks, Patchbay is a three-person studio dedicated to keeping electronic music history alive. We repair, restore, and calibrate vintage synthesizers, drum machines, and outboard gear. Whether it is a temperamental Juno with failing voice chips, a road-worn Minimoog drifting out of tune, or an obscure polysynth needing a complete overhaul, our benches are built for machines that make noise.

Between the three of us, we combine decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and obsessive troubleshooting. We do not view classic synthesizers as fragile museum pieces meant to sit behind glass; they are working instruments built to be played, patched, and pushed to their limits. Armed with original schematics, precision test gear, and a deep respect for analog circuitry, we bring tired hardware back from the brink—ready for another forty years in the studio or on stage.

Gemini 4 Carbon

33 s$0.0202.0k tokensAPI

Patchbay is a three-person workshop in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping vintage synthesizers alive. We work on the machines that shaped electronic music — analog polysynths, temperamental drum machines, early digital oddities — replacing tired capacitors, rebuilding keybeds, and coaxing silent oscillators back into tune.

Between us we bring decades of experience in electronics, instrument design, and music-making, but what unites us is simpler: we believe these machines were built to be played, not displayed. Every repair happens by hand at our benches, with period-correct components wherever possible and thoughtful modern solutions where reliability demands it. We test everything the only way that matters — by listening.

Whether your Juno has lost a voice, your 808 has lost its kick, or a flea-market find needs a full restoration, we treat each instrument as if it were heading back to a studio, a stage, and a long life of making noise. Because it is.

Ember-1

14 s$0.013833 tokensAPI

Specs and numbers

Gemini 4 CarbonEmber-1
MakerGoogleFireworks
Made inUSUS
Released10 Nov 202624 Sep 2026
Price in, per M tokens$2.00$3.00
Price out, per M tokens$10.00$15.00
Context1,048,576 tokens1,048,576 tokens
Weightsclosedclosed
Hacker News points308589
Time for the six prompts18 min 40 s25 min 56 s
List price of the six prompts$1.05$1.78

Gemini 4 Carbon was cheaper: $0.73 less at list price, and less on 4 of the 6 prompts. Gemini 4 Carbon was faster: 7 min 16 s less in total, and faster on 3 of the 6 prompts.

In the recording, both Breakout games play.

Rebuild this screen experiment: Ember-1's rebuild matched the screenshot at 67%; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Ember-1's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it.

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