Gemini 4 Argon vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
Gemini 4 Argon took 13 min 43 s and $0.68 at list price, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash took 9 min 16 s and $0.063 at list price. Gemini 4 Argon took 1.5× as long and cost 11× as much.
Gemini 4 Argon
Google · $10.00/M out · 2,036 HN pts
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
DeepSeek · $0.50/M out · 1,482 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
In a quiet industrial building overlooking the Maas, the air smells of warm dust, solder flux, and ozone. This is Patchbay, a three-person workshop in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping the golden age of electronic music alive. We don’t view vintage synthesizers as museum pieces to be locked behind glass. To us, a Roland Jupiter-8 or an ARP Odyssey is a living, breathing instrument meant to be played, gigged, and pushed to its sonic limits.
Between the three of us, we have spent decades deciphering faded schematics, hunting down obsolete transistors, and cleaning decades of club grime from beneath weighted keys. Rotterdam is a city built on raw electronics and relentless rhythms, and we take pride in keeping its hardware running. Whether you bring us a touring workhorse with a dead voice chip or a garage-find modular rig that hasn’t powered on since 1984, we are here to make it sing again.
Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam dedicated to the care, repair, and resurrection of vintage synthesizers. We started in a small workshop near the Maas, surrounded by oscillators, patch cables, and service manuals, because these instruments deserve more than dusty shelves and hasty fixes. Between us, we have decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and restoration, but we approach every machine with the same curiosity: listen first, trace the signal, understand the history, then bring it back to life. Whether it's a crackly filter, a dead voice card, a drifting oscillator, or a power supply that needs rebuilding, we work carefully, honestly, and with respect for original character. We also advise on maintenance, calibrate tuning and envelopes, and source hard-to-find parts when possible. At Patchbay, repair isn't just about making sound again. It's about keeping these instruments making music for decades to come.
Specs and numbers
| Gemini 4 Argon | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | |
| Made in | US | China |
| Released | 13 Oct 2026 | 10 Sep 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $2.00 | $0.045 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $10.00 | $0.50 |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 1,048,576 tokens |
| Weights | closed | open |
| Hacker News points | 2,036 | 1,482 |
| Time for the six prompts | 13 min 43 s | 9 min 16 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $0.68 | $0.063 |
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was cheaper: $0.61 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was faster: 4 min 27 s less in total, and faster on 5 of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.
Rebuild this screen experiment: Gemini 4 Argon's rebuild matched the screenshot at 69%; DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Gemini 4 Argon's game passed 5 of 5 checks; DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was not in it.





