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Ember-1 vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

6 prompts both ran·Specs and numbers·Change models

Ember-1 took 25 min 56 s and $1.78 at list price, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash took 9 min 16 s and $0.063 at list price. Ember-1 took 2.8× as long and cost 28× as much.

Ember-1

Fireworks · $15.00/M out · 589 HN pts

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

DeepSeek · $0.50/M out · 1,482 HN pts

Pelican

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

Ember-1's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Ember-1

3 min 14 s$0.2214k tokensAPI
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

38 s$0.00613k tokensAPI

Watch

Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.

Still of Ember-1's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Ember-1

5 min 11 s$0.3624k tokensAPI
Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

3 min 14 s$0.01427k tokensAPI

Landing

Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.

Still of Ember-1's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Ember-1

7 min 29 s$0.5134k tokensAPI
Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

1 min 51 s$0.01938k tokensAPI

Breakout

Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.

Still of Ember-1's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Ember-1

6 min 30 s$0.4731k tokensAPI
Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

2 min 25 s$0.01631k tokensAPI

Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.

Ember-1's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Ember-1

3 min 18 s$0.2214k tokensAPI
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

61 s$0.00816k tokensAPI

About

Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.

Patchbay is a three-person workshop in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping vintage synthesizers alive. We work on the machines that shaped electronic music — analog polysynths, temperamental drum machines, early digital oddities — replacing tired capacitors, rebuilding keybeds, and coaxing silent oscillators back into tune.

Between us we bring decades of experience in electronics, instrument design, and music-making, but what unites us is simpler: we believe these machines were built to be played, not displayed. Every repair happens by hand at our benches, with period-correct components wherever possible and thoughtful modern solutions where reliability demands it. We test everything the only way that matters — by listening.

Whether your Juno has lost a voice, your 808 has lost its kick, or a flea-market find needs a full restoration, we treat each instrument as if it were heading back to a studio, a stage, and a long life of making noise. Because it is.

Ember-1

14 s$0.013833 tokensAPI

Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam dedicated to the care, repair, and resurrection of vintage synthesizers. We started in a small workshop near the Maas, surrounded by oscillators, patch cables, and service manuals, because these instruments deserve more than dusty shelves and hasty fixes. Between us, we have decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and restoration, but we approach every machine with the same curiosity: listen first, trace the signal, understand the history, then bring it back to life. Whether it's a crackly filter, a dead voice card, a drifting oscillator, or a power supply that needs rebuilding, we work carefully, honestly, and with respect for original character. We also advise on maintenance, calibrate tuning and envelopes, and source hard-to-find parts when possible. At Patchbay, repair isn't just about making sound again. It's about keeping these instruments making music for decades to come.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

7 s<$0.001965 tokensAPI

Specs and numbers

Ember-1DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
MakerFireworksDeepSeek
Made inUSChina
Released24 Sep 202610 Sep 2026
Price in, per M tokens$3.00$0.045
Price out, per M tokens$15.00$0.50
Context1,048,576 tokens1,048,576 tokens
Weightsclosedopen
Hacker News points5891,482
Time for the six prompts25 min 56 s9 min 16 s
List price of the six prompts$1.78$0.063

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was cheaper: $1.72 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was faster: 16 min 40 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.

In the recording, both Breakout games play.

Rebuild this screen experiment: Ember-1's rebuild matched the screenshot at 67%; DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Ember-1's game passed 5 of 5 checks; DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was not in it.

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