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Ember-1 vs Gemini 3.8 Flash

6 prompts both ran·Specs and numbers·Change models

Ember-1 took 25 min 56 s and $1.78 at list price, Gemini 3.8 Flash took 8 min 33 s and $0.32 at list price. Ember-1 took 3.0× as long and cost 5.5× as much.

Ember-1

Fireworks · $15.00/M out · 589 HN pts

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Google · $4.13/M out · 1,293 HN pts

Pelican

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

Ember-1's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Ember-1

3 min 14 s$0.2214k tokensAPI
Gemini 3.8 Flash's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Gemini 3.8 Flash

89 s$0.06115k tokensAPI

Watch

Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.

Still of Ember-1's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Ember-1

5 min 11 s$0.3624k tokensAPI
Still of Gemini 3.8 Flash's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Gemini 3.8 Flash

84 s$0.04611k tokensAPI

Landing

Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.

Still of Ember-1's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Ember-1

7 min 29 s$0.5134k tokensAPI
Still of Gemini 3.8 Flash's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Gemini 3.8 Flash

2 min 57 s$0.1229k tokensAPI

Breakout

Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.

Still of Ember-1's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Ember-1

6 min 30 s$0.4731k tokensAPI
Still of Gemini 3.8 Flash's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Gemini 3.8 Flash

81 s$0.05714k tokensAPI

Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.

Ember-1's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Ember-1

3 min 18 s$0.2214k tokensAPI
Gemini 3.8 Flash's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Gemini 3.8 Flash

70 s$0.0368.8k tokensAPI

About

Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.

Patchbay is a three-person workshop in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping vintage synthesizers alive. We work on the machines that shaped electronic music — analog polysynths, temperamental drum machines, early digital oddities — replacing tired capacitors, rebuilding keybeds, and coaxing silent oscillators back into tune.

Between us we bring decades of experience in electronics, instrument design, and music-making, but what unites us is simpler: we believe these machines were built to be played, not displayed. Every repair happens by hand at our benches, with period-correct components wherever possible and thoughtful modern solutions where reliability demands it. We test everything the only way that matters — by listening.

Whether your Juno has lost a voice, your 808 has lost its kick, or a flea-market find needs a full restoration, we treat each instrument as if it were heading back to a studio, a stage, and a long life of making noise. Because it is.

Ember-1

14 s$0.013833 tokensAPI

Tucked away in Rotterdam, Patchbay is a three-person repair studio dedicated to the preservation and revival of vintage synthesizers. We believe that classic instruments are living machines rather than museum relics—tools built to inspire, create, and be played loud. Between the three of us, we combine decades of experience in electronics engineering, sound design, and meticulous craftsmanship. Whether tracking down elusive voice chips for an eighties polyphonic giant, rebuilding power supplies, or recalibrating the drift on a cantankerous monophonic circuit from the seventies, we treat every piece of gear with obsessive attention to detail. Our workbench is built on a deep respect for historical engineering and a refusal to cut corners. For musicians, producers, and collectors across the Netherlands and beyond, Patchbay is where forgotten circuits find their current again, keeping the tactile soul of analog synthesis alive and resonant.

Gemini 3.8 Flash

13 s$0.003811 tokensAPI

Specs and numbers

Ember-1Gemini 3.8 Flash
MakerFireworksGoogle
Made inUSUS
Released24 Sep 20262 Sep 2026
Price in, per M tokens$3.00$0.825
Price out, per M tokens$15.00$4.13
Context1,048,576 tokens1,048,576 tokens
Weightsclosedclosed
Hacker News points5891,293
Time for the six prompts25 min 56 s8 min 33 s
List price of the six prompts$1.78$0.32

Gemini 3.8 Flash was cheaper: $1.46 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. Gemini 3.8 Flash was faster: 17 min 23 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.

In the recording, both Breakout games play.

Rebuild this screen experiment: Ember-1's rebuild matched the screenshot at 67%; Gemini 3.8 Flash was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Ember-1's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Gemini 3.8 Flash was not in it.

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