Gemini 4 Carbon vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
Gemini 4 Carbon took 18 min 40 s and $1.05 at list price, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash took 9 min 16 s and $0.072 at list price. Gemini 4 Carbon took 2.0× as long and cost 15× as much.
Gemini 4 Carbon
Google · $10.00/M out · 308 HN pts
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
DeepSeek · $0.567/M out · 1,482 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Tucked away in a bright workshop near the Rotterdam docks, Patchbay is a three-person studio dedicated to keeping electronic music history alive. We repair, restore, and calibrate vintage synthesizers, drum machines, and outboard gear. Whether it is a temperamental Juno with failing voice chips, a road-worn Minimoog drifting out of tune, or an obscure polysynth needing a complete overhaul, our benches are built for machines that make noise.
Between the three of us, we combine decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and obsessive troubleshooting. We do not view classic synthesizers as fragile museum pieces meant to sit behind glass; they are working instruments built to be played, patched, and pushed to their limits. Armed with original schematics, precision test gear, and a deep respect for analog circuitry, we bring tired hardware back from the brink—ready for another forty years in the studio or on stage.
Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam dedicated to the care, repair, and resurrection of vintage synthesizers. We started in a small workshop near the Maas, surrounded by oscillators, patch cables, and service manuals, because these instruments deserve more than dusty shelves and hasty fixes. Between us, we have decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and restoration, but we approach every machine with the same curiosity: listen first, trace the signal, understand the history, then bring it back to life. Whether it's a crackly filter, a dead voice card, a drifting oscillator, or a power supply that needs rebuilding, we work carefully, honestly, and with respect for original character. We also advise on maintenance, calibrate tuning and envelopes, and source hard-to-find parts when possible. At Patchbay, repair isn't just about making sound again. It's about keeping these instruments making music for decades to come.
Specs and numbers
| Gemini 4 Carbon | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | |
| Made in | US | China |
| Released | 10 Nov 2026 | 10 Sep 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $2.00 | $0.051 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $10.00 | $0.567 |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 1,048,576 tokens |
| Weights | closed | open |
| Hacker News points | 308 | 1,482 |
| Time for the six prompts | 18 min 40 s | 9 min 16 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $1.05 | $0.072 |
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was cheaper: $0.98 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash was faster: 9 min 23 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.





