Gemini 4 Carbon vs Gemini 4 Argon
Gemini 4 Carbon took 18 min 40 s and $1.05 at list price, Gemini 4 Argon took 13 min 43 s and $0.68 at list price. Gemini 4 Carbon took 1.4× as long and cost 1.6× as much.
Gemini 4 Carbon
Google · $10.00/M out · 308 HN pts
Gemini 4 Argon
Google · $10.00/M out · 2,040 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Tucked away in a bright workshop near the Rotterdam docks, Patchbay is a three-person studio dedicated to keeping electronic music history alive. We repair, restore, and calibrate vintage synthesizers, drum machines, and outboard gear. Whether it is a temperamental Juno with failing voice chips, a road-worn Minimoog drifting out of tune, or an obscure polysynth needing a complete overhaul, our benches are built for machines that make noise.
Between the three of us, we combine decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and obsessive troubleshooting. We do not view classic synthesizers as fragile museum pieces meant to sit behind glass; they are working instruments built to be played, patched, and pushed to their limits. Armed with original schematics, precision test gear, and a deep respect for analog circuitry, we bring tired hardware back from the brink—ready for another forty years in the studio or on stage.
In a quiet industrial building overlooking the Maas, the air smells of warm dust, solder flux, and ozone. This is Patchbay, a three-person workshop in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping the golden age of electronic music alive. We don’t view vintage synthesizers as museum pieces to be locked behind glass. To us, a Roland Jupiter-8 or an ARP Odyssey is a living, breathing instrument meant to be played, gigged, and pushed to its sonic limits.
Between the three of us, we have spent decades deciphering faded schematics, hunting down obsolete transistors, and cleaning decades of club grime from beneath weighted keys. Rotterdam is a city built on raw electronics and relentless rhythms, and we take pride in keeping its hardware running. Whether you bring us a touring workhorse with a dead voice chip or a garage-find modular rig that hasn’t powered on since 1984, we are here to make it sing again.
Specs and numbers
| Gemini 4 Carbon | Gemini 4 Argon | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | ||
| Made in | US | US |
| Released | 10 Nov 2026 | 13 Oct 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $2.00 | $2.00 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $10.00 | $10.00 |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 1,048,576 tokens |
| Weights | closed | closed |
| Hacker News points | 308 | 2,040 |
| Time for the six prompts | 18 min 40 s | 13 min 43 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $1.05 | $0.68 |
Gemini 4 Argon was cheaper: $0.37 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. Gemini 4 Argon was faster: 4 min 57 s less in total, and faster on 4 of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.
Rebuild this screen experiment: Gemini 4 Argon's rebuild matched the screenshot at 69%; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Gemini 4 Argon's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it.





