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Pareto 26.10 vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

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Pareto 26.10 took 12 min and $0.097 at list price, Qwen3.8 Max (0902) took 77 min 11 s and $1.20 at list price. Qwen3.8 Max (0902) took 6.4× as long and cost 12× as much.

Pareto 26.10

Unbiased · $3.20/M out

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

Alibaba · $6.00/M out · 3 HN pts

Pelican

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

Pareto 26.10's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Pareto 26.10

1 min 35 s$0.0144.2k tokensAPI
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

10 min 9 s$0.1626k tokensAPI

Watch

Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.

Still of Pareto 26.10's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Pareto 26.10

2 min 22 s$0.0288.6k tokensAPI
Still of Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

19 min 9 s$0.2846k tokensAPI

Landing

Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.

Still of Pareto 26.10's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Pareto 26.10

4 min 1 s$0.0216.5k tokensAPI
Still of Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

20 min 35 s$0.3457k tokensAPI

Breakout

Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.

Still of Pareto 26.10's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Pareto 26.10

2 min 30 s$0.0288.6k tokensAPI
Still of Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

12 min 28 s$0.1932k tokensAPI

Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.

Pareto 26.10's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Pareto 26.10

85 s$0.0072.2k tokensAPI
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

13 min 37 s$0.2236k tokensAPI

About

Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.

Patchbay was born from a simple frustration in Rotterdam: the belief that vintage synthesizers should be heard, not locked away in climate-controlled collections. Founded by three engineers and musicians who share an obsession with the raw, unpredictable character of analog gear, we operate out of a small studio where the smell of soldering iron and ozone is as common as coffee. We don’t just fix broken circuits; we restore the soul of these machines. Whether it’s a temperamental Moog, a glitchy Roland, or a rare obscure European find, we treat every patch cord and potentiometer with reverence and precision. Our trio combines decades of electronic music production experience with meticulous hardware restoration skills, ensuring that every repair honors the original design while making the instrument reliable for modern stage use. We believe that the quirks of vintage technology are features, not bugs. Our goal is to bridge the gap between historical preservation and contemporary creativity, giving these legendary instruments a second life in today’s soundscapes. Join us in keeping the analog signal chain alive.

Pareto 26.10

6 s<$0.001208 tokensAPI

Patchbay is a small repair studio in Rotterdam dedicated to vintage synthesizers. We are three people who care about old instruments, their history, and the players who keep them alive. From classic analog polys to rare drum machines, we take the time to understand each machine before we touch it. Our work is practical and respectful: careful diagnosis, honest advice, and repairs that preserve the character of the instrument. We know these synths are more than circuits and knobs. They carry stories from studios, stages, and secondhand shops, and they deserve to be treated with patience. Whether a machine needs a simple clean, a full restoration, or help finding a hard-to-source part, we aim to make the process clear and personal from start to finish. Based in Rotterdam, we help musicians, collectors, and studios keep old synthesizers making sound for years to come. We do it with patience and respect.

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

74 s$0.0223.6k tokensAPI

Specs and numbers

Pareto 26.10Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
MakerUnbiasedAlibaba
Made in—China
Released15 Oct 20263 Sep 2026
Price in, per M tokens$0.80$2.00
Price out, per M tokens$3.20$6.00
Context1,048,576 tokens1,000,000 tokens
Weightsclosedclosed
Hacker News points—3
Time for the six prompts12 min77 min 11 s
List price of the six prompts$0.097$1.20

Pareto 26.10 was cheaper: $1.11 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. Pareto 26.10 was faster: 65 min 11 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.

In the recording, both Breakout games play.

Rebuild this screen experiment: Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s rebuild matched the screenshot at 81%; Pareto 26.10 was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s game passed 5 of 5 checks; Pareto 26.10 was not in it.

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