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Gemini 4 Carbon vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

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Gemini 4 Carbon took 18 min 40 s and $1.05 at list price, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 took 7 min 16 s and $0.057 at list price. Gemini 4 Carbon took 2.6× as long and cost 19× as much.

Gemini 4 Carbon

Google · $10.00/M out · 308 HN pts

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

DeepSeek · $0.50/M out · 1,717 HN pts

Pelican

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

Gemini 4 Carbon's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

3 min 2 s$0.1212k tokensAPI
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

48 s$0.00611k tokensAPI

Watch

Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.

Still of Gemini 4 Carbon's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

5 min 21 s$0.2222k tokensAPI
Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

2 min 20 s$0.00917k tokensAPI

Landing

Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.

Still of Gemini 4 Carbon's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

3 min 59 s$0.2727k tokensAPI
Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

1 min 36 s$0.02346k tokensAPI

Breakout

Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.

Still of Gemini 4 Carbon's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

2 min 25 s$0.1919k tokensAPI
Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

69 s$0.01325k tokensAPI

Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.

Gemini 4 Carbon's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Gemini 4 Carbon

3 min 20 s$0.2323k tokensAPI
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

76 s$0.00713k tokensAPI

About

Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.

Tucked away in a bright workshop near the Rotterdam docks, Patchbay is a three-person studio dedicated to keeping electronic music history alive. We repair, restore, and calibrate vintage synthesizers, drum machines, and outboard gear. Whether it is a temperamental Juno with failing voice chips, a road-worn Minimoog drifting out of tune, or an obscure polysynth needing a complete overhaul, our benches are built for machines that make noise.

Between the three of us, we combine decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and obsessive troubleshooting. We do not view classic synthesizers as fragile museum pieces meant to sit behind glass; they are working instruments built to be played, patched, and pushed to their limits. Armed with original schematics, precision test gear, and a deep respect for analog circuitry, we bring tired hardware back from the brink—ready for another forty years in the studio or on stage.

Gemini 4 Carbon

33 s$0.0202.0k tokensAPI

Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam devoted to keeping vintage synthesizers making the sounds they were built to make. We repair, service and restore analog instruments from the late 1960s onward, from familiar Moogs and ARPs to oddities with no service manual. Every synth that comes through the door is treated as a working instrument rather than a museum piece. We trace faults, rebuild power supplies, refresh capacitors, clean keybeds and calibrate oscillators, always with an eye on reliability and the character that made the machine worth saving. We document what we do, explain the options clearly and never replace more than necessary. Whether you need one dead voice brought back or a full restoration, we work carefully, at the bench and in conversation with you. Old synths belong on records and stages, and our job is to keep them there.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

7 s<$0.001975 tokensAPI

Specs and numbers

Gemini 4 CarbonDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
MakerGoogleDeepSeek
Made inUSChina
Released10 Nov 202617 Oct 2026
Price in, per M tokens$2.00$0.006
Price out, per M tokens$10.00$0.50
Context1,048,576 tokens1,048,576 tokens
Weightsclosedopen
Hacker News points3081,717
Time for the six prompts18 min 40 s7 min 16 s
List price of the six prompts$1.05$0.057

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was cheaper: $1.00 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was faster: 11 min 23 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.

In the recording, both Breakout games play.

Rebuild this screen experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's rebuild matched the screenshot at 57%; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it.

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