Gemini 4 Carbon vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Gemini 4 Carbon took 18 min 40 s and $1.05 at list price, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 took 7 min 16 s and $0.057 at list price. Gemini 4 Carbon took 2.6× as long and cost 19× as much.
Gemini 4 Carbon
Google · $10.00/M out · 308 HN pts
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek · $0.50/M out · 1,717 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Tucked away in a bright workshop near the Rotterdam docks, Patchbay is a three-person studio dedicated to keeping electronic music history alive. We repair, restore, and calibrate vintage synthesizers, drum machines, and outboard gear. Whether it is a temperamental Juno with failing voice chips, a road-worn Minimoog drifting out of tune, or an obscure polysynth needing a complete overhaul, our benches are built for machines that make noise.
Between the three of us, we combine decades of experience in electronics, sound design, and obsessive troubleshooting. We do not view classic synthesizers as fragile museum pieces meant to sit behind glass; they are working instruments built to be played, patched, and pushed to their limits. Armed with original schematics, precision test gear, and a deep respect for analog circuitry, we bring tired hardware back from the brink—ready for another forty years in the studio or on stage.
Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam devoted to keeping vintage synthesizers making the sounds they were built to make. We repair, service and restore analog instruments from the late 1960s onward, from familiar Moogs and ARPs to oddities with no service manual. Every synth that comes through the door is treated as a working instrument rather than a museum piece. We trace faults, rebuild power supplies, refresh capacitors, clean keybeds and calibrate oscillators, always with an eye on reliability and the character that made the machine worth saving. We document what we do, explain the options clearly and never replace more than necessary. Whether you need one dead voice brought back or a full restoration, we work carefully, at the bench and in conversation with you. Old synths belong on records and stages, and our job is to keep them there.
Specs and numbers
| Gemini 4 Carbon | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | |
| Made in | US | China |
| Released | 10 Nov 2026 | 17 Oct 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $2.00 | $0.006 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $10.00 | $0.50 |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 1,048,576 tokens |
| Weights | closed | open |
| Hacker News points | 308 | 1,717 |
| Time for the six prompts | 18 min 40 s | 7 min 16 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $1.05 | $0.057 |
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was cheaper: $1.00 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was faster: 11 min 23 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.
Rebuild this screen experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's rebuild matched the screenshot at 57%; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Gemini 4 Carbon was not in it.





