Ling 3.1 Flash vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Ling 3.1 Flash took 75 min 28 s and $0.055 at list price, Qwen3.8 Max (0902) took 77 min 11 s and $1.20 at list price. Both took about as long, and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) cost 22× as much.
Ling 3.1 Flash
inclusionAI · $0.225/M out · 1 HN pts
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Alibaba · $6.00/M out · 3 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Patchbay is a small repair studio in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping vintage synthesizers alive. We are three people — a technician, a historian, and a musician — who believe that the instruments built in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s still have decades of sound left in them, if someone is willing to care for them properly.
We work on everything from early Moogs and Arps to Roland Junos and Oberheim OB-series, handling everything from dead power supplies and leaky batteries to full recaps and voice board restoration. Our workshop is small by design. We take on a limited number of instruments at a time, which means every synth that comes through our door gets our full attention.
Most of our clients are working musicians, collectors, and small studios across Europe, but we also welcome instruments with stories we'd love to hear. If you have a piece of synth history that needs care, we'd be glad to talk.
Patchbay is a small repair studio in Rotterdam dedicated to vintage synthesizers. We are three people who care about old instruments, their history, and the players who keep them alive. From classic analog polys to rare drum machines, we take the time to understand each machine before we touch it. Our work is practical and respectful: careful diagnosis, honest advice, and repairs that preserve the character of the instrument. We know these synths are more than circuits and knobs. They carry stories from studios, stages, and secondhand shops, and they deserve to be treated with patience. Whether a machine needs a simple clean, a full restoration, or help finding a hard-to-source part, we aim to make the process clear and personal from start to finish. Based in Rotterdam, we help musicians, collectors, and studios keep old synthesizers making sound for years to come. We do it with patience and respect.
Specs and numbers
| Ling 3.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Max (0902) | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | inclusionAI | Alibaba |
| Made in | China | China |
| Released | 2 Oct 2026 | 3 Sep 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $0.075 | $2.00 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $0.225 | $6.00 |
| Context | 1,000,000 tokens | 1,000,000 tokens |
| Weights | closed | closed |
| Hacker News points | 1 | 3 |
| Time for the six prompts | 75 min 28 s | 77 min 11 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $0.055 | $1.20 |
Ling 3.1 Flash was cheaper: $1.15 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. Both took about as long in total; Ling 3.1 Flash was faster on 5 of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.
Rebuild this screen experiment: Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s rebuild matched the screenshot at 81%; Ling 3.1 Flash was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s game passed 5 of 5 checks; Ling 3.1 Flash was not in it.