DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Ling 3.1 Flash
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 took 7 min 16 s and $0.068 at list price, Ling 3.1 Flash took 75 min 28 s and $0.055 at list price. Ling 3.1 Flash took 10× as long, and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 cost 1.2× as much.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek · $0.60/M out · 1,693 HN pts
Ling 3.1 Flash
inclusionAI · $0.225/M out · 1 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam devoted to keeping vintage synthesizers making the sounds they were built to make. We repair, service and restore analog instruments from the late 1960s onward, from familiar Moogs and ARPs to oddities with no service manual. Every synth that comes through the door is treated as a working instrument rather than a museum piece. We trace faults, rebuild power supplies, refresh capacitors, clean keybeds and calibrate oscillators, always with an eye on reliability and the character that made the machine worth saving. We document what we do, explain the options clearly and never replace more than necessary. Whether you need one dead voice brought back or a full restoration, we work carefully, at the bench and in conversation with you. Old synths belong on records and stages, and our job is to keep them there.
Patchbay is a small repair studio in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping vintage synthesizers alive. We are three people — a technician, a historian, and a musician — who believe that the instruments built in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s still have decades of sound left in them, if someone is willing to care for them properly.
We work on everything from early Moogs and Arps to Roland Junos and Oberheim OB-series, handling everything from dead power supplies and leaky batteries to full recaps and voice board restoration. Our workshop is small by design. We take on a limited number of instruments at a time, which means every synth that comes through our door gets our full attention.
Most of our clients are working musicians, collectors, and small studios across Europe, but we also welcome instruments with stories we'd love to hear. If you have a piece of synth history that needs care, we'd be glad to talk.
Specs and numbers
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ling 3.1 Flash | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | inclusionAI |
| Made in | China | China |
| Released | 17 Oct 2026 | 2 Oct 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $0.15 | $0.075 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $0.60 | $0.225 |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 1,000,000 tokens |
| Weights | open | closed |
| Hacker News points | 1,693 | 1 |
| Time for the six prompts | 7 min 16 s | 75 min 28 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $0.068 | $0.055 |
Ling 3.1 Flash was cheaper: $0.013 less at list price, and less on 5 of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was faster: 68 min 11 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.
Rebuild this screen experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's rebuild matched the screenshot at 57%; Ling 3.1 Flash was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Ling 3.1 Flash was not in it.





