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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Ling 3.1 Flash

6 prompts both ran·Specs and numbers·Change models

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 took 7 min 16 s and $0.068 at list price, Ling 3.1 Flash took 75 min 28 s and $0.055 at list price. Ling 3.1 Flash took 10× as long, and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 cost 1.2× as much.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

DeepSeek · $0.60/M out · 1,693 HN pts

Ling 3.1 Flash

inclusionAI · $0.225/M out · 1 HN pts

Pelican

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

48 s$0.00711k tokensAPI
Ling 3.1 Flash's SVG for the "Pelican riding a bicycle" prompt

Ling 3.1 Flash

36 min 14 s$0.00417k tokensAPI

Watch

Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.

Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

2 min 20 s$0.01017k tokensAPI
Still of Ling 3.1 Flash's page for the "Wristwatch that shows the current time" prompt

Ling 3.1 Flash

4 min 33 s$0.00731k tokensAPI

Landing

Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.

Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

1 min 36 s$0.02746k tokensAPI
Still of Ling 3.1 Flash's page for the "Landing page for a cargo bike workshop" prompt

Ling 3.1 Flash

13 min 16 s$0.01880k tokensAPI

Breakout

Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.

Still of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

69 s$0.01525k tokensAPI
Still of Ling 3.1 Flash's page for the "Playable Breakout" prompt

Ling 3.1 Flash

11 min 45 s$0.01463k tokensAPI

Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

76 s$0.00813k tokensAPI
Ling 3.1 Flash's SVG for the "Bookshop logo" prompt

Ling 3.1 Flash

9 min 25 s$0.01151k tokensAPI

About

Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.

Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam devoted to keeping vintage synthesizers making the sounds they were built to make. We repair, service and restore analog instruments from the late 1960s onward, from familiar Moogs and ARPs to oddities with no service manual. Every synth that comes through the door is treated as a working instrument rather than a museum piece. We trace faults, rebuild power supplies, refresh capacitors, clean keybeds and calibrate oscillators, always with an eye on reliability and the character that made the machine worth saving. We document what we do, explain the options clearly and never replace more than necessary. Whether you need one dead voice brought back or a full restoration, we work carefully, at the bench and in conversation with you. Old synths belong on records and stages, and our job is to keep them there.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017

7 s<$0.001975 tokensAPI

Patchbay is a small repair studio in Rotterdam dedicated to keeping vintage synthesizers alive. We are three people — a technician, a historian, and a musician — who believe that the instruments built in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s still have decades of sound left in them, if someone is willing to care for them properly.

We work on everything from early Moogs and Arps to Roland Junos and Oberheim OB-series, handling everything from dead power supplies and leaky batteries to full recaps and voice board restoration. Our workshop is small by design. We take on a limited number of instruments at a time, which means every synth that comes through our door gets our full attention.

Most of our clients are working musicians, collectors, and small studios across Europe, but we also welcome instruments with stories we'd love to hear. If you have a piece of synth history that needs care, we'd be glad to talk.

Ling 3.1 Flash

15 s<$0.0011.7k tokensAPI

Specs and numbers

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017Ling 3.1 Flash
MakerDeepSeekinclusionAI
Made inChinaChina
Released17 Oct 20262 Oct 2026
Price in, per M tokens$0.15$0.075
Price out, per M tokens$0.60$0.225
Context1,048,576 tokens1,000,000 tokens
Weightsopenclosed
Hacker News points1,6931
Time for the six prompts7 min 16 s75 min 28 s
List price of the six prompts$0.068$0.055

Ling 3.1 Flash was cheaper: $0.013 less at list price, and less on 5 of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was faster: 68 min 11 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.

In the recording, both Breakout games play.

Rebuild this screen experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's rebuild matched the screenshot at 57%; Ling 3.1 Flash was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Ling 3.1 Flash was not in it.

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