DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Xing 4.0
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 took 6 min and $0.060 at list price, Xing 4.0 took 25 min 32 s and was free at list price. Xing 4.0 took 4.3× as long.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek · $0.60/M out · 1,693 HN pts
Xing 4.0
XingChen · free route
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam devoted to keeping vintage synthesizers making the sounds they were built to make. We repair, service and restore analog instruments from the late 1960s onward, from familiar Moogs and ARPs to oddities with no service manual. Every synth that comes through the door is treated as a working instrument rather than a museum piece. We trace faults, rebuild power supplies, refresh capacitors, clean keybeds and calibrate oscillators, always with an eye on reliability and the character that made the machine worth saving. We document what we do, explain the options clearly and never replace more than necessary. Whether you need one dead voice brought back or a full restoration, we work carefully, at the bench and in conversation with you. Old synths belong on records and stages, and our job is to keep them there.
Patchbay is a compact, three-person workshop rooted in the dynamic streets of Rotterdam, born from a shared reverence for analog sound. Our team shares an unwavering dedication to vintage synthesizers, viewing each oscillator, filter, and routing cable as a vital piece of sonic history waiting to be restored. Whether diagnosing a failing voltage regulator or carefully retrofitting obsolete components, we take immense pride in bringing classic instruments back to their full potential. In our studio, repairing isn't just a technical service—it is a shared passion among friends who believe the past deserves to keep playing. We meticulously diagnose and revive legacy synths, ensuring the iconic sounds of yesterday continue shaping today’s electronic music. Bring us your dented, broken machines, and let us help you reconnect them with the rich, unmistakable sounds they were always meant to make. Every patch, every knob, every fleeting tone depends on the work we do here.
Specs and numbers
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Xing 4.0 | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | XingChen |
| Made in | China | China |
| Released | 17 Oct 2026 | 16 Oct 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $0.15 | free route (list $0/M) |
| Price out, per M tokens | $0.60 | free route (list $0/M) |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 262,144 tokens |
| Weights | open | open |
| Hacker News points | 1,693 | — |
| Time for the five prompts | 6 min | 25 min 32 s |
| List price of the five prompts | $0.060 | free |
Xing 4.0 was free at list price; DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 cost $0.060. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was faster: 19 min 32 s less in total, and faster on each of the 5 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play. Xing 4.0's landing page showed a blank first frame when the still was taken. Xing 4.0 has no logo: doesn’t draw (an SVG file without the SVG namespace, which browsers draw as an empty box).
Rebuild this screen experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's rebuild matched the screenshot at 57%; Xing 4.0 was not in it. Tea Garden experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's game passed 5 of 5 checks; Xing 4.0 was not in it.





