DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 took 7 min 16 s and $0.068 at list price, Qwen3.8 Max (0902) took 77 min 11 s and $1.20 at list price. Qwen3.8 Max (0902) took 11× as long and cost 18× as much.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek · $0.60/M out · 1,693 HN pts
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Alibaba · $6.00/M out · 3 HN pts
Pelican
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Watch
Draw a mechanical wristwatch that shows the current local time, with a sweeping seconds hand and a date window. Make it look expensive.
Landing
Build the landing page for Lumen Cycles, a Copenhagen workshop that builds custom cargo bikes to order. Make it look like a real brand you would trust with 4,000 euros.
Breakout
Make a Breakout game I can play right now with the keyboard or the mouse. Give it several levels, a score and some juice.
Logo
Design a logo for Night Heron, an independent bookshop that only opens after dark.
About
Write the opening of the About us page for Patchbay, a three-person studio in Rotterdam that repairs vintage synthesizers. About 150 words.
Patchbay is a three-person studio in Rotterdam devoted to keeping vintage synthesizers making the sounds they were built to make. We repair, service and restore analog instruments from the late 1960s onward, from familiar Moogs and ARPs to oddities with no service manual. Every synth that comes through the door is treated as a working instrument rather than a museum piece. We trace faults, rebuild power supplies, refresh capacitors, clean keybeds and calibrate oscillators, always with an eye on reliability and the character that made the machine worth saving. We document what we do, explain the options clearly and never replace more than necessary. Whether you need one dead voice brought back or a full restoration, we work carefully, at the bench and in conversation with you. Old synths belong on records and stages, and our job is to keep them there.
Patchbay is a small repair studio in Rotterdam dedicated to vintage synthesizers. We are three people who care about old instruments, their history, and the players who keep them alive. From classic analog polys to rare drum machines, we take the time to understand each machine before we touch it. Our work is practical and respectful: careful diagnosis, honest advice, and repairs that preserve the character of the instrument. We know these synths are more than circuits and knobs. They carry stories from studios, stages, and secondhand shops, and they deserve to be treated with patience. Whether a machine needs a simple clean, a full restoration, or help finding a hard-to-source part, we aim to make the process clear and personal from start to finish. Based in Rotterdam, we help musicians, collectors, and studios keep old synthesizers making sound for years to come. We do it with patience and respect.
Specs and numbers
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3.8 Max (0902) | |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | Alibaba |
| Made in | China | China |
| Released | 17 Oct 2026 | 3 Sep 2026 |
| Price in, per M tokens | $0.15 | $2.00 |
| Price out, per M tokens | $0.60 | $6.00 |
| Context | 1,048,576 tokens | 1,000,000 tokens |
| Weights | open | closed |
| Hacker News points | 1,693 | 3 |
| Time for the six prompts | 7 min 16 s | 77 min 11 s |
| List price of the six prompts | $0.068 | $1.20 |
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was cheaper: $1.14 less at list price, and less on each of the 6 prompts. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 was faster: 69 min 54 s less in total, and faster on each of the 6 prompts.
In the recording, both Breakout games play.
Rebuild this screen experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's rebuild matched the screenshot at 57%, Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 81%. Tea Garden experiment: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's game passed 5 of 5 checks, Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 5 of 5.





